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worsetodieCan I count myself among the probable many who are not shocked this last disaster was mostly averted by the efforts of Inmates?
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Date: 2013-02-27 06:35 pm (UTC)You all have things to lose -- we don't. Not anymore. And until you realize that and start acting like it, stuff like this is always going to happen, and it will always be on the wardens when it does.
It wasn't my job to come out and save you. I'm the one you guys are supposed to be saving, remember?
You're the one turning it into 'us against them'. I'm pointing out there's no 'them' to speak of. You guys are too fractured to do a proper job of managing a prison.
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Date: 2013-02-27 08:27 pm (UTC)This place isn't set up for that sort of system. And you can blame the Admiral for that. [Narvin only wishes there were organization, a hierarchy, and rules.] There's no hierarchy, no person in charge to create and enforce a hierarchy, and a committee of sixty two equals would be useless at making decisions, especially in moments of crisis when quick decisions are most needed.
The Barge did have a security team, once. It was disbanded because people loathed it. What we'd need for real security--surveillance cameras, regular searches, teams of response units, and administrative teams to keep the whole thing organized, a chain of command--those don't work here. Because the Admiral took a cruise ship, set up a buddy system, and pretends it's a prison. But it isn't. It's never been a prison.
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Date: 2013-02-27 08:31 pm (UTC)It's a prison. It's a crappily set up prison, which is why the failure to graduation rate is huge, but it's still a prison. You know it, I know it, Kay knows it, everybody knows it.
The faster you accept that and attempt to try harder to organize along those lines the better off you'll be.
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Date: 2013-02-27 10:10 pm (UTC)He sets the filter to private.]
I've tried to organize it. I've tried to organize a discussion of warden rules and consequences, I've tried to hold wardens accountable. But with half the wardens being anarchists, loners, and fiercely independent, short of setting up cage matches to find an alpha male or female who will beat everyone into order and submission, there's not much hope of it ever happening. [Which, while it might be entertaining, probably wouldn't work very well in the long term.]
After two and a half years, I've given up. And you're right; I have everything to lose and every incentive to make the system work. My planet is on the line. The survival of my entire species.
But the wardens have no common vision, and no common goals, not even the graduation of inmates, since what leads one inmate graduation may in the process cause another to backslide. Some want strengthened security, others want total privacy and autonomy. We will be forever working to different agendas. We aren't a community and we never will be.
And I despise that this is the way it is. That the Admiral has the power to save lives, save civilizations, but will only do so if we play his game and then gives us so few resources to succeed. But I don't see any way to change it.
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Date: 2013-02-27 10:19 pm (UTC)[ This was a ...sort of compliment, really. But now it makes sense, it makes horrible, terrible sense. ]
You mean like Rorschach's graduation giving me a lot of questions about just how one gets from breaking fingers in a stairwell to being a warden over a seventeen year old boy? [ He's a little snappy here, now. ] Look, I know. It know it's hard. But someone has to try. And keep trying. You don't just give up because it's hard.
You fail. You learn from your mistakes and you move on. You're a good guy! That's the point!
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Date: 2013-02-28 04:22 am (UTC)We...make a good team. [He's not used to talking about his marriage and doesn't know how to respond. The rest isn't Personal and is therefore a bit easier to talk about. Personal is hard.]
I've seen that sort of thing happen often. Once an inmate graduated immediately after having kidnapped and held another inmate prisoner for days. A reevaluation or regret in the wake of a misdeed appears to sometimes be a trigger for graduation, but it leaves no justice for those who were victims.
[His brows furrow slightly.]
I'm not entirely sure I qualify as a good guy. In fact, I'm fairly sure everyone back home would laugh at the suggestion. But your point is made. And I would hate to lose my reputation for being stubborn.
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Date: 2013-02-28 06:03 pm (UTC)[ Bullies are that way. That's why he ended up dead. ]
Well, good. Be stubborn. Just be stubborn for the right reasons! Don't stubbornly refuse to try something because it's hard!
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Date: 2013-02-28 11:14 pm (UTC)private
Date: 2013-03-01 09:00 pm (UTC)Doing the right thing. Even when other people think you shouldn't, or when it might be really hard.
I just use babies as a qualifier that he treats people nicely.
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Date: 2013-03-01 10:13 pm (UTC)private
Date: 2013-03-02 12:29 am (UTC)